Bizarre story about Scott Pruitt comes to light

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heh. I'd say @jcowboy 's post was surpassed in absurdity only by your logic stream to arrive at the conclusion of "party before country" (which was declared from a very high horse).

What Pruitt did was wrong, even if it was "ethically legal". It was wrong. I don't dispute that. And thank you both for the entertainment.
Thank you for serving as the board arbiter of absurd while otherwise adding no useful input of your own.

Maybe if you actually showed me examples of the same posters that I point out not continually defending/covering/minimizing the actions of their side by pointing out extraneous problems on the other side it would help me to climb down off my horse.

-or-

If you had given a rational explanation of how corporatism and influence peddling have not had a demonstrable effect on issues for our country such as increasing income inequality and worsening upward mobility, that might have knocked me off my high horse.

But, waltzing in and simply declaring it? Why, that didn't even make my horse flinch.
 

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Strassel's response:

Kimberley Strassel
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1/ Mr. Eisen, actually, no. Wrong on all counts.
Pruitt travel/security costs for 2017: $160k
Gina McCarthy travel/security costs for 2013-16: $630k
Lisa Jackson travel/security costs for 2009-12: $332k
Coming up next, the breakout for their trips...

2/ Pruitt in 2017:
--G7 Summit in Italy: $84k
--Morocco: 40k

McCarthy in 2016
--Ghana: 68k
--Peru: 45k
--Tokyo: 75k

McCarthy in 2015
--Paris: 41k
--Dubai: 90k
--Tokyo: 68k
--Italy: 56k (a trip that, like Pruitt, involved a private tour of Vatican)

3/ McCarthy in 2014
--Vancouver: 62k (btw, it's impressive to spend that much just getting to Canada)
--Vietnam: 68k

McCarthy in 2013
--China: 55k

Jackson in 2012

--Israel: 65k

Jackson in 2011
--Rio De Janeiro: 60k
--Montreal: 51k
--China: 156k (wow).

4/ Meanwhile, here is the direct quote from memo issued from EPA principal deputy general counsel Kevin Minoli on March 30:

"the Ethics Office [staffed by career officials] reviewed the lease agreement . . . Under the terms of the lease, if the space was utilized for one 30-day month, then the rental cost would be $1500, which is a reasonable market value." And more:

"Therefore, entering into the lease was consistent with federal ethics regulations regarding gifts, and use of the property in accordance with the lease agreement did not constitute a gift a defined in those regulations."
And you are welcome, for all these facts.

>And for the record, I acknowledge Pruitt has also tallied some domestic security costs. But if you were facing daily death threats, your security detail might also think it best that you fly first class. No?
 
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What I have learned so far is that EPA employees are at all out war with Pruitt. Pruitt believes that the EPA should not make the law but is merely supposed to carry out the specific laws that Congress passes. This is direct opposition to many higher ups in the EPA who believe that it is up them to the make rules and regulations (i.e. laws) to "save the planet". Thus they gather and leak every scrap of information possible that may detract or even cast doubt that Pruitt is an honorable appointed official. This is very much like the former heads of the FBI who clearly had their own agenda and used the FBI to carry it out.
 

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What I have learned so far is that EPA employees are at all out war with Pruitt. Pruitt believes that the EPA should not make the law but is merely supposed to carry out the specific laws that Congress passes. This is direct opposition to many higher ups in the EPA who believe that it is up them to the make rules and regulations (i.e. laws) to "save the planet". Thus they gather and leak every scrap of information possible that may detract or even cast doubt that Pruitt is an honorable appointed official. This is very much like the former heads of the FBI who clearly had their own agenda and used the FBI to carry it out.
This war won't last long and I don't think it has anything to do with Laws or the creation of them.

In may 2017 the EPA started offering $25,000 buyouts to anyone near retirement age and 372 employees took it and another 700 EPA employees have quit since Trump was elected and they were not replaced.

The EPA told the Washington Examiner it had a goal to reduce the staff by 50% by 2020 and 47% of the staff is retirement eligible by 2022

The Senate and House approved $79 million in retirement buyouts for the EPA for the 2018 budget which is expected to be used to buy out 2,000 EPA employees and there is an additional $35 million set aside to payout early retirement in 2019 to cut an additional 1,000 employees

These EPA employees see this as an assault to force them out of Fed Gubment work and benefits and is why they are fighting back against Pruitt

http://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/374167-the-79-million-plan-to-gut-epa-staff
 
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This is one of my favorite Pruitt revelations. When he was Oklahoma's AG...he was basically an administrative assistant to the oil/gas corporations. Here he is copy and pasting a letter for them...to the EPA lol. Our government is supposed to represent the people, but that simply isn't the case with Pruitt...or those like him. They represent Corporations. The people are irrelevant to them.

And that's why Oil/gas only pay 2% production tax in OK (compared to 5%-6% in a state like North Dakota)...and that's why Oklahoma ranks 49th, 50th in education. (ND ranks 17th...and has a fraction of OK's population)

Oklahoma is a resource rich state, but our resources were/are being given away by the Scott Pruitts, so powerful lobbies like oil/gass will help them advance their political careers.

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It's not about 'saving the world'...it's about not letting profoundly corrupt politicians burglarize our house for their own personal gain.

OK"s earthquakes, which coincided with the fracking boom, started in 2011...Pruitt became Oklahoma's AG in 2010...whereupon he started copy/pasting for oil and gas with the EPA.
So, every time you send your insurance company a check to protect against earthquakes wrecking your house, think of Scott Pruitt living in his subsidized condo. Every time a teacher moves to another state to make a living wage, think of Scott Pruitt moving to Washington DC, cashing in on the favors he did for oil and gas in Oklahoma.
 
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This war won't last long and I don't think it has anything to do with Laws or the creation of them.

In may 2017 the EPA started offering $25,000 buyouts to anyone near retirement age and 372 employees took it and another 700 EPA employees have quit since Trump was elected and they were not replaced.

The EPA told the Washington Examiner it had a goal to reduce the staff by 50% by 2020 and 47% of the staff is retirement eligible by 2022

The Senate and House approved $79 million in retirement buyouts for the EPA for the 2018 budget which is expected to be used to buy out 2,000 EPA employees and there is an additional $35 million set aside to payout early retirement in 2019 to cut an additional 1,000 employees

These EPA employees see this as an assault to force them out of Fed Gubment work and benefits and is why they are fighting back against Pruitt

http://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/374167-the-79-million-plan-to-gut-epa-staff
There may or may not be completely true but it is an editorial piece...written by "John O’Grady is president of the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) National Council of EPA Locals #238 representing over 8,000 bargaining unit employees at the U.S. EPA nationwide"
 
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It's not about 'saving the world'...it's about not letting profoundly corrupt politicians burglarize our house for their own personal gain.

OK"s earthquakes, which coincided with the fracking boom, started in 2011...Pruitt became Oklahoma's AG in 2010...whereupon he started copy/pasting for oil and gas with the EPA.
So, every time you send your insurance company a check to protect against earthquakes wrecking your house, think of Scott Pruitt living in his subsidized condo. Every time a teacher moves to another state to make a living wage, think of Scott Pruitt moving to Washington DC, cashing in on the favors he did for oil and gas in Oklahoma.
I know person who started out as deeply committed to environmentalism and another who was an advisor to the EPA. Both finally quit because of it's tangled bureaucratic system of often making senseless unscientific
judgements that did absolutely nothing to improve the environment.
 
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I know person who started out as deeply committed to environmentalism and another who was an advisor to the EPA. Both finally quit because of it's tangled bureaucratic system of often making senseless unscientific
judgements that did absolutely nothing to improve the environment.
But think of the virtue signaling opportunities--"I work for the EPA! I'm going to save the world."
 
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It's not about 'saving the world'...it's about not letting profoundly corrupt politicians burglarize our house for their own personal gain.

OK"s earthquakes, which coincided with the fracking boom, started in 2011...Pruitt became Oklahoma's AG in 2010...whereupon he started copy/pasting for oil and gas with the EPA.
So, every time you send your insurance company a check to protect against earthquakes wrecking your house, think of Scott Pruitt living in his subsidized condo. Every time a teacher moves to another state to make a living wage, think of Scott Pruitt moving to Washington DC, cashing in on the favors he did for oil and gas in Oklahoma.
LOL, Most Oklahomans as well as President Trump don't give a damn about that crap. Since earthquakes only happen in little remote towns, most Oklahomans say, "What earthquakes?".

Who has earthquake insurance? Insurance companies in Oklahoma have been dropping coverage for earthquakes. Anyway, it's all indicative that Oklahoma is one of the most poorly run states in the country. If you don't want to move out of Oklahoma, you have no other choice other than to accept it and live with it.

And who cares that the current State Attorney General said last year that he thought that the Oklahoma Legislature is well led by smart people.