Bizarre story about Scott Pruitt comes to light

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"The protective detail then broke down the building’s glass-paneled front door and ascended two flights to Pruitt’s $50-a-night bedroom, where two sources tell ABC News he was found groggy, rising from a nap. It is unclear what led to the panic that caused the response. Pruitt declined medical attention, and a police report was never filed."

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The bizarre part about this is how did his security team that was locked outside and two flights of stairs away know he was unconscious and unresponsive?
 

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What a boring, bunch of every day nothingness compared to what's important to get one's hair on fire over. Fire him and be done with it if he deserves it. This thread and the conversations in is are some of the worst. I'm left dumber than before for having read them.

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What a boring, bunch of every day nothingness compared to what's important to get one's hair on fire over. Fire him and be done with it if he deserves it. This thread and the conversations in is are some of the worst. I'm left dumber than before for having read them.

Total waste of white space.
Holder could have had free room and board for the next 10-20 years but prison is already overcrowded, where is the left's outrage?
 

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If he gets fired over this, it serves him right. Even if there was no quid pro quo going on, it's bad to even give the impression that it could. The sad thing is that this kind of crap goes on and has been going on for some time but that doesn't excuse this specific incident.....Pruitt has been exposed and probably needs to resign, but let's not pretend this isn't common place on both sides of the aisle.
 
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It's really poor judgement to rent a condo from a lobbyist even if he did pay fair market value. You open yourself up to this type of scrutiny.

The one note I will make is that the story could be a little misleading. It isn't uncommon for a 1 bedroom unit to rent for far less than a 4 bedroom unit in the same building. The article doesn't give any info on the condo or say how often he stayed there during the 6 month period. It just says he paid $50 per night and stayed sporadically. It's tough to make a hard judgement without knowing all the facts. It is tough to believe that $50 per night is fair market value in DC though.
 

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It's really poor judgement to rent a condo from a lobbyist even if he did pay fair market value. You open yourself up to this type of scrutiny.

The one note I will make is that the story could be a little misleading. It isn't uncommon for a 1 bedroom unit to rent for far less than a 4 bedroom unit in the same building. The article doesn't give any info on the condo or say how often he stayed there during the 6 month period. It just says he paid $50 per night and stayed sporadically. It's tough to make a hard judgement without knowing all the facts. It is tough to believe that $50 per night is fair market value in DC though.
remember this and other things happened after or was still happening after John Kelly and the White house sat down with Pruitt, Carson and other cabinet level people and asked them to use better judgement.
 

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It's really poor judgement to rent a condo from a lobbyist even if he did pay fair market value. You open yourself up to this type of scrutiny.

The one note I will make is that the story could be a little misleading. It isn't uncommon for a 1 bedroom unit to rent for far less than a 4 bedroom unit in the same building. The article doesn't give any info on the condo or say how often he stayed there during the 6 month period. It just says he paid $50 per night and stayed sporadically. It's tough to make a hard judgement without knowing all the facts. It is tough to believe that $50 per night is fair market value in DC though.
And question. How many condos and apartments in d.c. are owned by lobbyists and the renters don't even know?

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And question. How many condos and apartments in d.c. are owned by lobbyists and the renters don't even know?

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I'm guessing the number of condos that lobbyists are renting out in DC that would allow you to show up when you want and pay $50 for that night but not any other nights is exactly 1 condo. :derp: Nobody other than you is fantasizing that Pruitt did not know he was getting a sweetheart deal from a former campaign contributor to his campaigns.

Seriously, would you have EVER dreamed of writing that post if we were talking about a democrat renting from a union lobbyist? What is it that makes people throw right and wrong completely out the window as long as it is their guy doing it? Sad. Sad because on the other side there is some liberal that is completely making ridiculous excuses for the scummy actions of the politicians that he loves. So, the rest of us get to put up with poor government and corruption because citizens can't help but be fanboys.
 

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Holder could have had free room and board for the next 10-20 years but prison is already overcrowded, where is the left's outrage?
Where is your outrage? This has nothing to do with the left at all yet all you can do is point fingers. Can't you see that you are the problem when you do that? Citizens have to stand up and say that we will not accept this crap from any of them. As long as you are willing to accept it as long as it is your team, it will always continue.

People need to quit acting like politics is a team sport and it is OK to point out OUs players that smoke weed while still supporting our own.

Unlike @bleedinorange, I don't think this is nothingness. This insidious crap is what ruins governments. Widespread government corruption is what plagues the Mexicos and Nigerias of the world and is very limited in the Germanies and Japans. Sadly, it appears you guys are fine with that, as long as the corruption is your team. Now, if the other side is corrupt, this thread would be 12 pages long with complaints and memes. Classic third world politics.
 

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Where is your outrage? This has nothing to do with the left at all yet all you can do is point fingers. Can't you see that you are the problem when you do that? Citizens have to stand up and say that we will not accept this crap from any of them. As long as you are willing to accept it as long as it is your team, it will always continue.

People need to quit acting like politics is a team sport and it is OK to point out OUs players that smoke weed while still supporting our own.

Unlike @bleedinorange, I don't think this is nothingness. This insidious crap is what ruins governments. Widespread government corruption is what plagues the Mexicos and Nigerias of the world and is very limited in the Germanies and Japans. Sadly, it appears you guys are fine with that, as long as the corruption is your team. Now, if the other side is corrupt, this thread would be 12 pages long with complaints and memes. Classic third world politics.
It is classic politics. The nothingness (imo) is derived from the value ratio of these "crumbs" compared to the hundreds of millions (billions?) dollars looted from the national treasury by the entitled elected elite annually. Franking privileges alone allowing for an average of $63 per day for "safe" congressional seats and $172 per day for hotly contested elections dwarf such silliness as Pruitt's indulgence. And that's just for mail. I have trouble getting exorcised over pennies when there's so much more extreme abuse.
 

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It is classic politics. The nothingness (imo) is derived from the value ratio of these "crumbs" compared to the hundreds of millions (billions?) dollars looted from the national treasury by the entitled elected elite annually. Franking privileges alone allowing for an average of $63 per day for "safe" congressional seats and $172 per day for hotly contested elections dwarf such silliness as Pruitt's indulgence. And that's just for mail. I have trouble getting exorcised over pennies when there's so much more extreme abuse.
I see it as the opposite.
Pruitt could very easily afford a one bedroom condo for his own use while in DC. If we are at the point where they feel so damn entitled that they can blatantly take free crap like cut-rate housing and first-class trips to sporting events on the taxpayer's dime, it shows that they have no concern about the consequences of being caught at all.
Taking a risk to get caught for the big reward is one thing. Taking a risk when the reward is peanuts just shows that they don't have any concern about the consequences.
 
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I see it as the opposite.
Pruitt could very easily afford a one bedroom condo for his own use while in DC. If we are at the point where they feel so damn entitled that they can blatantly take free crap like cut-rate housing and first-class trips to sporting events on the taxpayer's dime, it shows that they have no concern about the consequences of being caught at all.
Taking a risk to get caught for the big reward is one thing. Taking a risk when the reward is peanuts just shows that they don't have any concern about the consequences.
Find me a politician who is concerned about consequences for any abuse. large or small and that will be a good place to start the discussion. Hurry, I'm not getting any younger and I suspect it's going to be a long time before one turns up.
 

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Where is your outrage? This has nothing to do with the left at all yet all you can do is point fingers. Can't you see that you are the problem when you do that? Citizens have to stand up and say that we will not accept this crap from any of them. As long as you are willing to accept it as long as it is your team, it will always continue.

People need to quit acting like politics is a team sport and it is OK to point out OUs players that smoke weed while still supporting our own.

Unlike @bleedinorange, I don't think this is nothingness. This insidious crap is what ruins governments. Widespread government corruption is what plagues the Mexicos and Nigerias of the world and is very limited in the Germanies and Japans. Sadly, it appears you guys are fine with that, as long as the corruption is your team. Now, if the other side is corrupt, this thread would be 12 pages long with complaints and memes. Classic third world politics.
Jesus, you gotta be some sort of saint in your own mind.The left throwing rocks at one who cheaped by on a room yet you ignore comrade barack who had the most evil thugs doing his bidding...holder, rice, lerner and the list goes on and on. Now it appears he tutored hrc, maybe the most insecure idiot that ever bought her way into politics, in how to cheat a Republican candidate out of a win by purchasing a fictional piece of crap to spy on his campaign. It appears you guys are fine with that. Take a break and consider the crap you support...it's a two way street unless you are a Socialist. If he's guilty then sack his butt BUT be willing to send the obama staff and king barack to prison along with hrc and push all the money she has stolen from us back to the rightful owners. Glass houses...
 
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Jesus, you gotta be some sort of saint in your own mind.The left throwing rocks at one who cheaped by on a room yet you ignore comrade barack who had the most evil thugs doing his bidding...holder, rice, lerner and the list goes on and on. Now it appears he tutored hrc, maybe the most insecure idiot that ever bought her way into politics, in how to cheat a Republican candidate out of a win by purchasing a fictional piece of crap to spy on his campaign. It appears you guys are fine with that. Take a break and consider the crap you support...it's a two way street unless you are a Socialist.
Show me somewhere, anywhere, I supported any of that. I'll wait.

You are displaying the exact problem that I am talking about. Because I am not excusing a scumbag because I agree with his politics, I must support the other "crap." IT IS NOT SPORTS. WE AREN'T ON TEAMS. I don't support politicians of any flavor cheating the public. Never have. Never will. If that makes me a saint in my own mind, then so be it.

And, he didn't just cheap by on a room. He took a political favor from someone who he is supposed to be regulating for the good of the public. You are the exact equal of the people that said the commander in chief "just got a blow job in his private life" when he defaced the public trust and any sense of professional ethics with an intern. But, since he was on their team, they defended him. Just like you. When you look at the insane liberals you need to realize that you have made yourself nothing more than the other side of the same coin.
 
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Find me a politician who is concerned about consequences for any abuse. large or small and that will be a good place to start the discussion. Hurry, I'm not getting any younger and I suspect it's going to be a long time before one turns up.
You don't think that Tom Coburn was concerned about those things? Russ Feingold? Ron Paul? Paul Wellstone?

There are good people that are conservative, and good people that are liberal. Unfortunately, there are many on both sides that are not.
 

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And question. How many condos and apartments in d.c. are owned by lobbyists and the renters don't even know?

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I'm guessing the number of condos that lobbyists are renting out in DC that would allow you to show up when you want and pay $50 for that night but not any other nights is exactly 1 condo. :derp: Nobody other than you is fantasizing that Pruitt did not know he was getting a sweetheart deal from a former campaign contributor to his campaigns.

Seriously, would you have EVER dreamed of writing that post if we were talking about a democrat renting from a union lobbyist? What is it that makes people throw right and wrong completely out the window as long as it is their guy doing it? Sad. Sad because on the other side there is some liberal that is completely making ridiculous excuses for the scummy actions of the politicians that he loves. So, the rest of us get to put up with poor government and corruption because citizens can't help but be fanboys.
I never said I believed anything. Just had a question. You really don't think there are people on both sides of the aisle staying in rentals in d.c. that are owned by lobbyists?

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