Authoritarian Virginia Democrats demand violence if gun control not enforced

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StillwaterTownie

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The 2nd Amendment was poorly written. Why any need for the first half of it? A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...

Most people want some sensible gun control laws to make it less likely for evil people to blow their heads off.
 

StillwaterTownie

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I couldn't care less if evil people blow their heads off. Makes for less evil people.
So you quite passionately believe that guns should be as easy to buy as a kitchen knife at Wal-Mart. If so, please don't come around me crying with tears running down your face over your close friend or loved one got shot dead for no good reason. Of course, come back and say that people get run over and killed by cars for no good reason. After all, it's not the car that causes that. Same with guns.
 

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So you quite passionately believe that guns should be as easy to buy as a kitchen knife at Wal-Mart. If so, please don't come around me crying with tears running down your face over your close friend or loved one got shot dead for no good reason. Of course, come back and say that people get run over and killed by cars for no good reason. After all, it's not the car that causes that. Same with guns.
What do gun purchase laws, background checks, waiting periods, etc have to do with suicide by gun?

If you wanna argue "accessibility to guns" as correlated with suicide by gun then fine, but purchase laws really have nothing to do with suicide.


AND btw, the 2nd Amendment was ABSOLUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY, NOT poorly written. It's actually masterfully written because the authors had the intelligence and the foresight to draft it in a manner that does transcend time and "should" transcend firearm technology advancements.
 

StillwaterTownie

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What do gun purchase laws, background checks, waiting periods, etc have to do with suicide by gun?

If you wanna argue "accessibility to guns" as correlated with suicide by gun then fine, but purchase laws really have nothing to do with suicide.


AND btw, the 2nd Amendment was ABSOLUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY, NOT poorly written. It's actually masterfully written because the authors had the intelligence and the foresight to draft it in a manner that does transcend time and "should" transcend firearm technology advancements.
You're so WRONG. For starters what does infringe mean? Does infringement allow for regulation, or does it only refer to prohibition? The Supreme Court has ruled it can include regulation or even prohibition, such as banning felons from having guns. Of course, people like you would disagree once the felon has served prison time.
 
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So you quite passionately believe that guns should be as easy to buy as a kitchen knife at Wal-Mart. If so, please don't come around me crying with tears running down your face over your close friend or loved one got shot dead for no good reason. Of course, come back and say that people get run over and killed by cars for no good reason. After all, it's not the car that causes that. Same with guns.
I have dealt with just the situation you are talking about and your argument is specious at best. A gun is a thing and has no control over its actions, a person does. In the words of Chuck Heston, "From my cold dead hands"
 

StillwaterTownie

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Infringe - 1. to encroach upon in a way that violates the rights of another. 2. To act upon as to limit or undermine.

There is no doubt that the Democrat party seeks to act upon the 2nd amendment in a way to limit or undermine it.
It not just the Democrat party. Polls have shown that the majority of Americans want more gun control. That sentiment has been going up, not down. They're sick and tired of the senseless killings. Since conservatives pretty strongly believe that more and more guns are the answer to the problem, then more gun control is needed.
 
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It not just the Democrat party. Polls have shown that the majority of Americans want more gun control. That sentiment has been going up, not down. They're sick and tired of the senseless killings. Since conservatives pretty strongly believe that more and more guns are the answer to the problem, then more gun control is needed.
They seem to be polling in millenial leiden areas
 

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The 2nd Amendment was poorly written. Why any need for the first half of it? A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...

Most people want some sensible gun control laws to make it less likely for evil people to blow their heads off.
I’m not surprised that you feel as you do since you don’t understand the way the 2nd amendment was written. The Founders are telling you the reason for the amendment in the first half. We WERE a federation of free states and the right to bear arms is the only thing that is keeping the federal govt from completely swallowing the last remaining states rights. It’s a damn shame to see an expanding segment of the population that wants to just give up that right. With rights comes responsibilities. The burden of responsibility is too great for the gun control crowd.
 

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Thomas Jefferson, one of the dims favorite Presidents wrote extensively about the 2nd amendment

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776



"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776


"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824


"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12, June 1823

“I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778