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According to Trump people trying to cross illegally have dropped off by 73% so if you believe him then what he is doing is working tremendously well without the Wall

So pick the Trump you believe.
I believe the one where things are working best with little to no government involved.
 

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In 1986 the monthly avg of arrest at the border was 140,833 per month...in 2000 it was 139,000 per month

In Nov 2018..just 3 short months ago it was 52,000 arrest at the border for the month

25,000 along the Texas border for a month is so much better than where we were

There were approx 405k border arrest in 2018 or 33k per month..way down from almost 2 million arrest we have seen in years past during a year
Which is the point, 75% of arrests are in Texas...Fed's built fences and barriers along CA, AZ and NM. The intent of the barriers is to redirect or slow down, Texas needs some additional help with that mission...not an easy thing to do in those areas but the hot spot of illegal crossings is outside McAllen.

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Which is the point, 75% of arrests are in Texas...Fed's built fences and barriers along CA, AZ and NM. The intent of the barriers is to redirect or slow down, Texas needs some additional help with that mission...not an easy thing to do in those areas but the hot spot of illegal crossings is outside McAllen.

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You mean if we walled off Texas it would be all good?

You mean they wouldn't move to Arizona where the barrier is a whopping 3 ft tall and only intended to stop vehicles

But this 3ft wall has had a part in helping push 75% of illegal border crossings to Texas though?


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And for those good folks down in McAllen TX

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You mean if we walled off Texas it would be all good?

You mean they wouldn't move to Arizona where the barrier is a whopping 3 ft tall and only intended to stop vehicles

But this 3ft wall has had a part in helping push 75% of illegal border crossings to Texas though?


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And for those good folks down in McAllen TX

https://twitter.com/texasdemocrats/status/1083439617272090624

Here's the real people of McAllen, TX today.

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I wasn’t even a Trump supporter during the campaign and I knew what he meant. It sounds good in a campaign to say Mexico is going to pay for the wall and leave it at that. I think only a moron or someone who wants to feign ignorance in order to stick it to Trump thought Mexico was going to cut a check for a wall. You can argue that the new trade deal could pay for it in a decade. But even if someone rejects that notion or says that deal won’t come to fruition, I don’t think any intellectually honest person will deny that a barrier will pay for itself in the long run by shifting the care burden back to Mexico.
From Trump's own campaign website

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19 who entered the country legally with visas, and didn't commit a single crime until they began conspiring to hijack those planes... And none were from Mexico.
I guess these don't matter. The fact is that a stricter immigration policy than the weak-willed dems offer might have prevented a good number of these unnecessary deaths. But keep beating the liberal drum. It makes about as much sense as AOC.


Archive of Serious Crimes Committed by Illegal Aliens
2017
  • August 2017 — Martel Valencia-Cortez, a human smuggler from Mexico, was sentenced to eight years in American Prison for assaulting a U.S. Border Patrol agent with a rock; he was also charged with three counts of human smuggling. Valencia-Cortez has been listed as one of the most dangerous human smugglers in the San Diego area. Previous to the most recent charge, Valencia-Cortez served three years in prison for human smuggling charges and was then deported back to Mexico. (U.S. News, August 29, 2017)
  • August 2017 — Thirty three-year-old nanny Lidia Quilligana, an illegal alien from Ecuador, was convicted and sentenced to fifteen years in prison for the brutal torture and abuse of three small children. Nanny cam footage caught Quilligana burning the hands and legs of the three-year-old child as well as grabbing her by the hair and hitting her in the face. The torture was described as “sustained and depraved cruelty” by the District Attorney, and the judge admitted that the sentence nowhere near fit the heinous nature of the crime. Quilligana cited her own abusive childhood in Ecuador as justification for her actions. (Newstimes, August 22, 2017)
  • July 2017 — Ariel Cuellar Guizar will face thirty-one years in prison for a collection of charges relating to his activities as a human trafficker. He has been found guilty of trafficking, pimping women out to prostitution, and the rape of a fifteen-year-old girl. Guizar will also be registered as a sex offender for life. (ABC7, July 20, 2017)
  • June 2017 — Vanessa Hernandez, an illegal alien from Mexico, was sentenced to 100 months in prison for importing nearly 9 pounds of methamphetamine. Hernandez is expected to face deportation proceedings after she is released from prison. (ICE.gov, June 9, 2017)
  • May 2017 — Illegal alien, Edwin Velasquez Curuchiche, has been sentenced to fifty years in prison after being convicted of two counts of producing child pornography. Specifically, Curuchiche has been charged with sneaking into the room of a six year old girl and filming himself molesting her while she slept. Originally apprehended entering the country illegally in 2013, the Guatemalan national never returned for his immigration hearing and was living in the U.S. illegally at the time he assaulted the child. (Tennessean, May 15, 2017)
  • May 2017 — An Uzbek refugee serving 25 years behind bars for a plot to kill U.S. military personnel or civilians has been charged with stabbing the warden at the California federal prison where he was serving his sentence, prosecutors said Thursday. (Fox News, May 27, 2017)
  • May 2017 — Pasqual Mendez, 24, of Morganton, was given an active prison term of 12 to 19 years for felony human trafficking of a child, assault on a female, interfering with emergency communication and statutory rape of a child less than 15 years of age (News Herald, May 23, 2017)
  • May 2017 — Oscar De La Rosa-Mendoza, 31, of Mission — a Mexican citizen who wasn't lawfully present in the United States — pleaded guilty to driving while intoxicated, a Class B misdemeanor, on May 9. (CBS News, May 18, 2017)
  • May 2017 — Carlos Santiago-Alvarez, 41, of Holyoke, was sentenced Monday to six to eight years in state prison followed by five years probation in a child rape case. (Mass Live, May 4, 2017)
  • April 2017 — Ignacio Luque-Verdugo, 32, was convicted Friday in Adams County District Court of first-degree murder and attempted first-degree murder charges. (Denver Channel, April 18, 2017)
  • April 2017 — Four Charlotte-area members of the El Salvadoran gang MS-13 were convicted Tuesday of federal racketeering charges. (Charlotte Observer, April 18, 2017)
  • April 2017 — Pablo Gonzales Sanchez will spend at least 18 years in prison for molesting a young teenage girl an estimated 50 times. The girl's mother, an illegal alien, has also been sentenced to prison for not reporting her daughter's allegations of abuse. Both she and Sanchez also were ordered to be added to the Sex Offender Registry. (Shelby Star, April 11, 2017)
  • April 2017 — Abdirahman P. Sahel was sentenced Monday, April 10, to 20 years in prison for sexually assaulting and terrorizing a young woman nearly four years ago. (Jamestown Sun, April 11, 2017)
  • April 2017 — Gil Gaxiola was convicted of first-degree attempted murder of a National Park Service employee, as well as armed robbery, three counts of aggravated assault, kidnapping and theft of means of transportation, following an 11-day trial. (Wilcox Range News, April 1, 2017)
  • March 2017 — Mexican National Miguel Rangel-Arce, 36, has been convicted of trafficking methamphetamine in New Mexico and Navajo Nation land. He will serve 10 years in prison. He is one of eight others who were charged with trafficking drugs between November 2015 and March 2016. When they were apprehended, the police also found 2 1/2 pounds of meth and 10 firearms. (Daily Times, March 8, 2017)
  • February 2017 — 29-year-old Ricardo Solis Garcia was sentenced to 20-29 years in prison after being convicted of raping a 13-year-old girl in Burke County, North Carolina in March of 2015. Garcia lured the girl into his car on the pretense of giving her a ride but instead took her to a motel room where he forced her to have sex with him. Garcia will be scheduled to be deported after he has served his prison sentence. (WHKY, February 2, 2017)
  • January 2017 — A Mexican illegally in the United States;, Leonard Pennelas-Escobar, was shot dead in Arizona as he assaulted a police officer by banging his head against cement after Pennelas shot and wounded the officer who had stopped to render assistance after Pennelas driving at a high speed had rolled the car killing the woman passenger.
  • January 2017 — Alexis De La Rosa Sosa, an illegal alien from Mexico, was sentenced in Texas to four concurrent terms of 12 years in prison for the deaths of two persons as a result of his crashing into their vehicle while driving recklessly and then fleeing the scene of the crime. (Breitbart News, January 11, 2017)
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  • 2016
    • November 2016 — A Mexican illegal alien , Claudia Raquel Herrera Ibarra, pled guilty to possession of a firearm in Laredo Texas and was sentenced to three years imprisonment. She and a partner were caught smuggling weapons to the violent “Los Zetas” narcotics smuggling gang in Mexico. (Breibert News, November 30, 2016)
    • October 2016 — A previously deported illegal alien is jailed in Michigan after admitting to strangling his girlfriend. Raul Perez had been deported to Mexico in 2004 and again in 2005 after a judge found him guilty of illegal reentry. He also had been in police custody five days before the murder for driving under the influence. The local authorities established his identity from his fingerprints – he was using an assumed name – but according to a news account – there was no request from ICE that he be detained (perhaps because he was detained on a weekend). ICE has now issued a detainer request for whenever Perez is released. (WoodTV, Channel 8, Grand Rapids Mich.)
    • September 2016 — Cecil Burrows, an immigrant from India, is due to be deported following more than three years imprisonment for his involvement in orchestrating a gang rape in his home in 2012. (Washington Post, September 25, 2016)
    • September 2016 — A British illegal alien, Michael Steven Sandford, pled guilty in Nevada to possession of a gun—that he tried to take from a policeman – and disrupting and official function—a campaign rally by GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump. Sandford said he was attempting to kill the candidate. A psychiatrist found that Sandford was “delusional” according to an AP report. Sentencing guidelines call for 18 to 27 months in prison. (Daily News. September 13, 2016)
    • September 2016 — September 2016 – Jorge Elizade Sanches, an illegal alien confessed to the beating death of his common-law spouse in Texas. (12newsnow.tv September 15, 2016)
    • September 2016 — September 2016 – Walter Gomes DaSilva, a Brazilian illegal alien, pled guilty to the murder of his teen-aged daughter in Massachusetts. (Boston Herald, September 7, 2016)
    • September 2016 — September 2016 – Ecuadorian illegal aliens, Paul Esteban Estrella Villota and his wife Magaly Alemania Malagon Sandoya were respectively sentenced in Texas to six and five years respectively in federal prison for an alien smuggling operation. (Breibart News September 7, 2016)
    • August 2016 — Two Salvadoran illegal alien gang members were convicted of murder in the Virginia suburbs of Washington DC. Jose Lopez Torres was convicted of a brutal stabbing death of another MS-13 gang member suspected of being an informer. He was sentenced to life imprisonment plus 20 years. According to the Washington Post, “His conviction was part of a sweeping federal case against Northern Virginia members of the El Salvador-based gang, in which six defendants pleaded guilty and six more were found guilty at trial.” The other just convicted Salvadoran was Jesus Alejandro Chavez, who was sentenced to two life terms plus 10 years for two murders. (Washington Post, August 11, 2016)
    • July 2016 — Mauricio Morales-Caceres, an illegal alien from El Salvador was sentenced in Montgomery County, Maryland to life in prison without parole for the stabbing death of another Salvadoran. Morales identified himself as an MS-13 gang member, and testimony indicated he had no remorse for his crime. (Washington Post July 15, 2016)
    • June 2016 — Aroldo Castillo-Serrano, a Guatemalan illegal alien, was sentence to 15 years in prison in Ohio for forced labor conspiracy, forced labor, witness tampering and encouraging illegal entry into the country. Castillo paid smugglers to smuggle teen-aged Guatemalan youth into the country under the promise of getting them into school and then put them to work as indentured servants in an egg farm. (Fox News Latino, June 27, 2016)
    • June 2016 — A Mexican illegal alien, Juan Carlos Sepulveda-Castro, was sentenced to two and one half years in prison in Idaho for threatening people with an assault rifle. The news report notes that illegal aliens are prohibited from possessing a firearm. (Pocatello TV channel 8)
    • June 2016 — Eleven illegal alien members of the Salvadoran MS-13 gang have been convicted of a series of crimes including murder. Jorge Enrique Moreno-Aguilar, Juan Alberto Ortiz-Orellana and Minor Perez, all from Maryland were convicted in mid-May of murder and conspiracy in a racketeering enterprise. (MRC-TV May 24, 2016) New Jersey gang members Santos Reyes-Villatoro, Mario Oliva, Roberto Contreras, Julian Moz-Aguilar, Hugo Palencia, Jose Garcia, Cruz Flores, and Esau Ramirez were convicted in late May in New Jersey of various murder, racketeering and firearms crimes. (MRC-TV, June 2, 2016)
    • May 2016 — Illegal aliens, Reinol Vergara and Edson Benitez, pled guilty to second degree murder for the death of a 90 year-old Minnesota man they beat and tied up while they stole from his home, leaving him to bleed to death. (Breibart News May 11, 2016)
    • April 2016 — A Salvadoran illegal alien, Mauricio Morales-Caceres, was convicted of first degree murder in Maryland and sentenced to life imprisonment. (Washington Post, April 30, 2016)
    • March 2016 — Juan Razo, a Mexican illegal alien living in Painesville, Ohio, agreed to plead guilty to a crime spree that included the shooting death of a 60-year old woman, attempted rape of a 14-year old girl, kidnapping and burglary. His plea was to avoid the death penalty and accept a life sentence. (Cleveland.com, March 4, 2016)
    • February 2016 — Three illegal aliens from Mexico were sentenced to federal prison for alien smuggling and illegally re-entering the U.S. after previous deportations. One man was sentenced to 57 months, another will serve 24 months, and the last man was sentenced to serve 12 months and one day in prison. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, February 2, 2016)
    • January 2016 — An illegal alien from Mexico was sentenced to nearly 6 years in prison after having been convicted for transporting illegal aliens, which resulted in the death of two illegal aliens. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, January 20, 2016)
  • 2015
    • December 2015— A 40-year-old illegal alien, Michael Rodriguez Garcia, was sentenced to four life terms for the rape and sodomy of two children in Alabama. (Breitbart News, December 2, 2015)
    • November 2015 — Humberto Erazo-Medrano and Ricardo Castaneda, two illegal aliens, were arrested and charged with second-degree promoting prostitution in Alabama. The bond for each man is set at $100,000. (Gadsden Times, November 2, 2015)
    • October 2015 — Marco Hernandez Ramirez, a 34-year-old illegal alien from Guatemala, was sentenced to 40 years in prison for killing a couple and their 5-year-old daughter in a car crash. (Athens Banner-Herald, October 14, 2015)
    • September 2015 — An illegal alien from Mexico, Martin Margarito-Casimiro, was sentenced to 40 years in federal prison for kidnapping a man in Texas. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, September 24, 2015)
    • August 2015 — Jose Angel Villarreal-Sanchez, a 42-year-old illegal alien from Mexico, was convicted of possessing a firearm in Texas. According to federal law, illegal aliens are not permitted to possess firearms. Three baggies of cocaine were also found hidden in his backyard. Villarreal-Sanchez is expected to be sentenced in December. He could face up to 10 years in federal prison and a possible $250,000 fine. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, August 11, 2015)
    • July 2015 — Ever Olivos-Gutierrez, an illegal visa overstayer, was convicted of second degree murder in Colorado for the death he caused while driving intoxicated. It was the fourth time since 2000 he had been arrested for DUI, but there was no record of immigration authorities ever being notified. He was sentenced to 40 years imprisonment. (Denver Channel 7)
    • June 2015 — A Salvadoran, Mauricio Hernandez, convicted of rape and murder of the baby born to his victim was sentenced to 50 years in prison in Texas and faces deportation when he has served his sentence. (The Dallas Morning News, June 5, 2015)
    • May 2015 — A Salvadoran, Julio C. Saravia, faces deportation following a prison sentence of 29 years for rape of a minor, to which he pled guilty in Virginia.
    • May 2015 — Two Mexicans, Juan Hernandez-Sanchez and (FNU) Canela-Perez, pled guilty in Portland, Oregon and were sentenced to seven years in state prison for distribution of methamphetamines and heroin. (Oregonian, May 14, 2015)
    • May 2015 — Zeng Liang Chen and Dong Biao Lin, illegal aliens from China, were convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in New Jersey. (NJ.com, May 5, 2015)
    • May 2015 — Bernabe Flores, a Mexican illegal alien, pled guilty to first-degree rape in California and was sentenced to eight years in prison. (Times-Herald Record, May 7, 2015)
    • April 2015 — Victor Garzon-Alvarez, a Mexican illegal alien pled guilty and was sentenced in New Jersey to 14 years in prison for murder. (NJ.com, April 22, 2015)
    • April 2015 — Sergio Quezada Lopez, a Mexican illegal alien who had been deported four times, was sentenced in Oregon to 15 years in prison for a heroin overdose death. His brother, Gerardo Chalke Lopez, also a previously deported alien, was earlier sentenced to 18 years in prison on the same charges. (Oregonian, April 29, 2015)
    • April 2015 — Three illegal aliens, Uriel Ramirez-Perez, Darwin Zuniga-Rocha, and Eliseo Mateo Perez, pled guilty to first-degree sexual abuse (rape) in New York and were sentenced to time served in jail and will be deported. (Daily News, April 29, 2015)
    • March 2015 — Javier Guerrero Molina, a Mexican illegal alien, was sentenced in federal court in Jacksonville, Florida to 10 years imprisonment for attempting to transport a minor to engage in sexual activity. Guerrero said he had entered the United States illegally in 1999 or 2000. (Dept. of Justice, Middle District of Florida, March 30, 2015)
    • March 2015 — An Idaho judge sentenced Phuong Hoang Le, a Vietnamese illegal alien, to prison for 36 months. Le was convicted of possession of a stolen car and stolen credit card. The judge commented, "Stealing cars and credit cards strike at the hearts of average middle class citizens." The prosecutor said that Le had 10 prior felony convictions, but that according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, he is not likely to be deported because if Le were to be deported to Vietnam "he would be killed." (http://magicvalley.com/news/local/mini-cassia/ — March 25, 2015)
    • March 2015 — Luis Daniel Cabrera-Guzman, a Mexican illegal alien, was sentenced in Kansas City to two years in federal prison for conspiracy to produce and distribute false and counterfeit identification documents that were sold to illegal aliens. He had previously been deported twice in 2009. Four other Mexican illegal aliens have pled guilty to the same conspiracy and await sentencing. (Kansas City infozine, March 25, 2015)
    • February 2015 — Sergio Cobaruvias-Romero, an illegal alien from Mexico, was convicted of possessing with intent to distribute drugs in Texas. He was found with 20 bundles of methamphetamine weighing 46 pounds and four bundles of heroine weighing 13 pounds. He was sentenced to 10 years in federal prison. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, February 17, 2015)
    • January 2015 — Jaime Gerardo Serrano-Villegas, a 28-year-old illegal alien from Mexico, was convicted of transporting illegal aliens. He assisted in moving a boat filled with illegal aliens and faces up to 10 years in federal prison. (U.S. Department of Justice, Southern District of Texas, January 14, 2015)
 
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This is from NPR piece today: https://www.npr.org/2019/01/11/684037990/border-patrol-makes-its-case-for-an-expanded-border-barrier


During a ride-along with the Border Patrol on Wednesday in its San Diego sector, agents made it clear that the fence deters illegal crossers.

"I started in the San Diego sector in 1992 and it didn't matter how many agents we lined up," said Chief Patrol Agent Rodney Scott. "We could not make a measurable impact on the flow [of undocumented immigrants] across the border. It wasn't until we installed barriers along the border that gave us the upper hand that we started to get control."

Forty-six of the 60 miles of border in the San Diego sector are currently protected by some type of barrier. Scott says in the places where he has two levels of fencing he achieves 90 percent operational control.
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Asked what he would tell opponents to Trump's wall, Scott said sector chiefs like him have actually been asking for more tactical barriers for years, "and all of a sudden it got unbelievably political overnight."

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Currently, according to the spokesperson for the CBP's San Diego sector, they're spending $10.5 million a mile to replace 14 miles of old fencing with 18-foot-tall, state-of-the-art, steel bollard barrier between San Diego County and Tijuana. Trump has asked for an additional $5.7 billion for 234 miles of new steel slat fencing in sections along the entire U.S.-Mexico boundary. That works out to $24.4 million a mile. Critics have demanded to know why Trump's wall is so much more expensive than current fence construction.

A senior official with Customs and Border Protection told NPR that the added expense comes from building access roads, installing sensors and acquiring private land — which accounts for most of the borderland in Texas.
 

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You mean if we walled off Texas it would be all good?

You mean they wouldn't move to Arizona where the barrier is a whopping 3 ft tall and only intended to stop vehicles

But this 3ft wall has had a part in helping push 75% of illegal border crossings to Texas though?


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And for those good folks down in McAllen TX

https://twitter.com/texasdemocrats/status/1083439617272090624
Your response is a photo of the vehicle barrier in the desert of Arizona? Even the ngo's that operate in that region to assist the immigrants state that the numbers of crossers are few and that they find more bodies than living people.
 

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Trump today.

"When during the campaign I would say Mexico is going to pay for it, obviously I never said this, and I never meant they are going to write out a check"

Anyone want to spin and defend this?
So tiresome. No need to spin. You need to get the complete quotes in context and you would understand. Trump has been asked a number of times about "Mexico would pay for the wall" statement. EVERY TIME he has been asked (starting way back) he has said that he did not mean the President of Mexico would sit down and write a check for the wall but that US benefits from revised trade negotiations (done by the way) and Mexico taking care of their on indigent population rather than pushng them to the US illegally would pay for the wall.

By the way - it's not about the money. $5 billion represents less than one tenth of one percent of the current federal budget. It would literally get lost in the rounding. Congress on their own sent more than $5 billion of aid to Central and South America this year alone. A majority Democrat congress enacted legislation several years ago saying the wall would be built - and both Pelosi and Chuck voted for it. Both of them have supported increased border security and a wall in the past, as did both Presidents Obama and Clinton.

This is not about the money, and democrats have agreed with and voted for the wall in the past. It is about politics and hatred of Trump. They don't want him to have a win. Democratic leadership is on the wrong side of this issue and will pay for it later.
 

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So tiresome. No need to spin. You need to get the complete quotes in context and you would understand. Trump has been asked a number of times about "Mexico would pay for the wall" statement. EVERY TIME he has been asked (starting way back) he has said that he did not mean the President of Mexico would sit down and write a check for the wall but that US benefits from revised trade negotiations (done by the way) and Mexico taking care of their on indigent population rather than pushng them to the US illegally would pay for the wall.

By the way - it's not about the money. $5 billion represents less than one tenth of one percent of the current federal budget. It would literally get lost in the rounding. Congress on their own sent more than $5 billion of aid to Central and South America this year alone. A majority Democrat congress enacted legislation several years ago saying the wall would be built - and both Pelosi and Chuck voted for it. Both of them have supported increased border security and a wall in the past, as did both Presidents Obama and Clinton.

This is not about the money, and democrats have agreed with and voted for the wall in the past. It is about politics and hatred of Trump. They don't want him to have a win. Democratic leadership is on the wrong side of this issue and will pay for it later.
"Democratic leadership is on the wrong side of this issue and will pay for it later."
You're giving too much credit to the electorate.
 

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So tiresome. No need to spin. You need to get the complete quotes in context and you would understand. Trump has been asked a number of times about "Mexico would pay for the wall" statement. EVERY TIME he has been asked (starting way back) he has said that he did not mean the President of Mexico would sit down and write a check for the wall but that US benefits from revised trade negotiations (done by the way) and Mexico taking care of their on indigent population rather than pushng them to the US illegally would pay for the wall.
I call all out BS on what you wrote. There is no way you can run from the FACT that Trump quite clearly said Mexico will pay for the wall over and over again as this video quite easily proves. Ha, I bet Mexicans will pay for their ropes and ladders, though. You also can NOT run from the FACT that Trump wrote on his campaign site that he had a plan to compel Mexico to make a one payment of $5 to 10 billion to build wall. Trump lies and changes his mind so damned much, don't you ever get sick and tired of it? We could have less BS from you, if you would quit being gullible enough to fall hook, line and sinker for Trump's BS.

And in his lame take back, Trump claims, without evidence, that Mexico will pay for border wall via trade deal, which is still waiting for final approval by Congress. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-claims-mexico-pay-wall-check/story?id=60290146

 
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I call all out BS on what you wrote. There is no way you can run from the FACT that Trump quite clearly said Mexico will pay for the wall over and over again as this video quite easily proves. Ha, I bet Mexicans will pay for their ropes and ladders, though. You also can NOT run from the FACT that Trump wrote on his campaign site that he had a plan to compel Mexico to make a one payment of $5 to 10 billion to build wall. Trump lies and changes his mind so damned much, don't you ever get sick and tired of it? We could have less BS from you, if you would quit being gullible enough to fall hook, line and sinker for Trump's BS.

And in his lame take back, Trump claims, without evidence, that Mexico will pay for border wall via trade deal, which is still waiting for final approval by Congress. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-claims-mexico-pay-wall-check/story?id=60290146

You can call whatever you want, it remains a FACT that Trump has always said that he did not mean that Mexico would write a specific check for the border wall. I looked at some of the CNN "fact checking". Trump believes we have a crisis at the border; CNN apparently does not. CNN counted that as a mis-statement of fact, implying it was a lie. That's a difference of opinion, not a lie.
 
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I read recently about the Federal Courts criminal case loads. There are, I believe, 11 Federal Circuits (geographic districts) as well as 2 more special Circuits for the District of Columbia and another Fed Circuit that handles special federal crimes. Among other trails federal courts are where US attorneys (federal DA's) prosecute federal crimes, which are serious crimes.

There are 3 Federal Circuits that include border states with Mexico, and those three Federal Circuits hear more criminal cases than the rest of the Federal Circuits combined. Over 60% of the criminal trails they hear the accused are illegal aliens - primarily for large drug busts and importing drugs into the US, human trafficking, kidnapping, gang organized crime activity and illegal re-entry into the US after being deported for committing crimes.