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PF5

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All time low unemployment and all time full employment records under Trump.. Blacks.. Women.. Hispanics... Asian.. everyone was working!

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/04/black-and-hispanic-unemployment-is-at-a-record-low.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...april-unemployment-fell-percent-lowest-since/

If it weren't for COVID, Biden wouldn't stand a chance. Your either part of the solution or part of the problem and Biden has been part of the problem for 47 years.

At least have the decency to vote Libertarian or Green party.. anything but the status quo.
True, but has been on a gradual decline since 2010 (Obama was president 2009-2017)
 

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New York Post Published Hunter Biden Report Amid Newsroom Doubts

Some reporters withheld their bylines and questioned the credibility of an article that made the tabloid’s front page on Wednesday.


The offices of the New York Post. Staff members had concerns about the reliability of a front-page article’s sources and its late-campaign timing.
The offices of the New York Post. Staff members had concerns about the reliability of a front-page article’s sources and its late-campaign timing.Credit...Kevin Hagen/Getty Images
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By Katie Robertson
Oct. 18, 2020
Updated 6:01 p.m. ET
The New York Post’s front-page article about Hunter Biden on Wednesday was written mostly by a staff reporter who refused to put his name on it, two Post employees said.

Bruce Golding, a reporter at the Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid since 2007, did not allow his byline to be used because he had concerns over the article’s credibility, the two Post employees said, speaking on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation.

Coming late in a heated presidential campaign, the article suggested that Joseph R. Biden Jr. had used his position to enrich his son Hunter when he was vice president. The Post based the story on photos and documents the paper said it had taken from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden.

Many Post staff members questioned whether the paper had done enough to verify the authenticity of the hard drive’s contents, said five people with knowledge of the tabloid’s inner workings. Staff members also had concerns about the reliability of its sources and its timing, the people said.


The article named two sources: Stephen K. Bannon, the former adviser to President Trump now facing federal fraud charges, who was said to have made the paper aware of the hard drive last month; and Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, who was said to have given the paper “a copy” of the hard drive on Oct. 11.

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Mr. Giuliani said he chose The Post because “either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out.”

Top editors met on Oct. 11 to discuss how to use the material provided by Mr. Giuliani. The group included the tabloid veteran Colin Allan, known as Col; Stephen Lynch, The Post’s editor in chief; and Michelle Gotthelf, the digital editor in chief, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting. Mr. Allan, who was The Post’s editor in chief from 2001 to 2016 and returned last year as an adviser, urged his colleagues to move quickly, the person said.

As deadline approached, editors pressed staff members to add their bylines to the story — and at least one aside from Mr. Golding refused, two Post journalists said. A Post spokeswoman had no comment on how the article was written or edited.

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Headlined “BIDEN SECRET E-MAILS,” the article appeared Wednesday with two bylines: Emma-Jo Morris, a deputy politics editor who joined the paper after four years at the Murdoch-owned Fox News, and Gabrielle Fonrouge, a Post reporter since 2014.
Ms. Morris did not have a bylined article in The Post before Wednesday, a search of its website showed. She arrived at the tabloid in April after working as an associate producer on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show, according to her LinkedIn profile. Her Instagram account, which was set to private on Wednesday, included photos of her posing with the former Trump administration members Mr. Bannon and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, as well as Roger J. Stone Jr., a friend and former campaign adviser to Mr. Trump. (In July, the president commuted the sentence of Mr. Stone on seven felonies.)

Ms. Fonrouge had little to do with the reporting or writing of the article, said three people with knowledge of how it was prepared. She learned that her byline was on the story only after it was published, the people said.

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The article relied on documents purportedly taken from the hard drive to suggest that the elder Mr. Biden, as vice president, had directed American foreign policy in Ukraine to benefit his son, a former board member of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company.

The article also suggested that the elder Mr. Biden had met with a Burisma adviser, Vadym Pozharskyi. On Wednesday, a Biden campaign spokesman said that Mr. Biden’s official schedules showed no meeting between the former vice president and the adviser. Last month, two Republican-led Senate committees investigating the matter said they had found no evidence of wrongdoing by the former vice president.

“The senior editors at The Post made the decision to publish the Biden files after several days’ hard work established its merit,” Mr. Allan said in an email.

The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal have reported that they could not independently verify the data in the Post article, which included hedging language, referring at one point to an email “allegedly sent” to Hunter Biden.

“The story was vetted and The Post stands by its reporting,” a Post spokeswoman said in a statement.
 

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Those who support Trump know who he is.
It’s evident those of you on the left have no idea who Biden is. Or you don’t care he’s mafia on steroids...
 

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Simple question.

Are you better off now than you were in 2016?

If yes, why would you ever vote for Biden?

If no, I can tell you you are in the minority, but if so, by all means vote for something different.
I’ve always found this simplification odd. You don’t find it extremely sad that people tie their well-being to one person, in this case the president?
 
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I’ve always found this simplification odd. You don’t find it extremely sad that people tie their welfare to one person, in this case the president?
people tie a whole lot too just one person. Have you seen Bidens new the blind pig ad, blaming trump for the business lockdowns in California. I believe he has been asking for them to open for months.
 

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Simple question.

Are you better off now than you were in 2016?

If yes, why would you ever vote for Biden?

If no, I can tell you you are in the minority, but if so, by all means vote for something different.
I am better off today. I’m voting for Biden for many reasons, which I have posted about extensively. Here’s a short version addressing what you’re attempting to imply.
  1. I don’t credit Trump with my betterment. I told you I’m a Republican and I believe in personally working hard for success instead of relying on the government.
  2. I’m not as narcissistic as the president. I care about OTHERS who I believe will suffer under another Trump presidency. Not just about my bank account. I also care about the future of our country and am willing to bite the bullet and vote for a democrat instead of someone who doesn’t understand sacrificing for your country.
I’ve always found this simplification odd. You don’t find it extremely sad that people tie their welfare to one person, in this case the president?
exactly
 
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The "are you better?" question is the ultimate over simplification. The Presidents already get far too much credit, or blame for business cycles.

Get ready for this one though. The covid will go away one of these days. Not in the next 2 months, but for sure in the next 4 years. Whoever wins the election is going to take credit for that too. Okay, I can live with that. But any of you binkie suckers try to jump on board and act like it's because your guy won, it's go time.
 

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Side note. I used a strange term like binkie suckers so it would be easier to search because someone is going to do just what I predicted.
 

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Ok, let’s talk about the 25 women accusing the candidate of sexual assault.
Already did in 2016 and no one believed it then and we still dont now. You guys already tried this before, have tried it on Kavanaugh and just recently asked if ACB has "sexually assaulted" anyone. Your playbook is boring and has run its course and you guys may need to try a new one.
 

PF5

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Already did in 2016 and no one believed it then and we still dont now. You guys already tried this before, have tried it on Kavanaugh and just recently asked if ACB has "sexually assaulted" anyone. Your playbook is boring and has run its course and you guys may need to try a new one.
He did say 'accused' and as to your response of "no one believed it then and we still dont now." That is not quite right, but I guess you can think that no one believes it...
 
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Hunt (at least in the interview) wants to find common ground between Dems and Reps and believes the shared connection veterans have would make that easier.

I don’t care that Fogerty doesn’t like Trump. The Vietnam period was filled with people looking for ways to avoid serving in that war; some like Fogerty and Bush utilized the Reserve, some (Trump) used physical issues,, some (Clinton) used College deferments and some left the country. We should be past the time of vilifying people who found ways “out” as the abuse of the system helped lead us to the all volunteer force we have now.

as far as Fogerty not wanting his song used...IIRC, there was an issue like this with one of Bush/McCain/Romney campaigns. The campaign stopped using a song because the artist requested it but there was no legal requirement since the song was in the public space, the campaign just needed to pay the appropriate royalty fee for its use...could be wrong here.
I think it was Melloncamp and "Little Pink Houses" with Bush.