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Jostate

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https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1310326823591571456?s=19
This may be true. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. At the same time you remember when Harry Reid said another Republican presidential contender didn't pay taxes and it turned out to be a flat out lie. When asked about it later Harry said "he didn't win the election did he?"
 

PF5

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You have to remember that only half the country cares enough to vote. Half will vote for Trump and half won’t. Of the 25% that vote against him I doubt 100% of them “hates” someone they’ve never met.

I mean that if you have the impression that half the country hates the president then that probably means the current level of inexplicable hate is much higher than what is normally seen.
Why do you inexplicably keep using the word inexplicable? word of the week, new thesaurus app, just like the sound of it?
just curious
 
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It shouldn’t matter how much he paid in income taxes during a single year. It should matter if he followed tax laws. If he legally avoided taxes under a tax code that he had nothing to do with, and after 8 years of a Obama/Biden administration, then focus of ire is misplaced.
 
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So I wonder why the FBI agents involved in the Flynn case decided to by liability insurance...

https://amgreatness.com/2020/09/24/...ught-liability-insurance-this-is-a-nightmare/
These FBI agents learned the investigation not about Russians but about getting rid of Trump. They learned the whole investigation was an illegal farce. They did not want to be held liable. They bought personal liability insurance to protect themselves. As this unfolds I am not sure how the FBI leadership can stay out of jail.
 

PF5

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Can you seriously say with a straight face and truth serum that you're ok with a dude having a net worth of $2.5 Billion paying less federal income taxes than you do? (much less)
Stop...really, just stop...
 
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Can you seriously say with a straight face and truth serum that you're ok with a dude having a net worth of $2.5 Billion paying less federal income taxes than you do? (much less)
Stop...really, just stop...
Again, your ire is misplaced. Trump had nothing to do with federal tax laws for the 2016 year (but coincidently the opposite candidate has a long history of being involved with federal tax law).

Unless you have information Trump illegally evaded taxes, then I don’t know why you are upset with him about this.
 
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It shouldn’t matter how much he paid in income taxes during a single year. It should matter if he followed tax laws. If he legally avoided taxes under a tax code that he had nothing to do with, and after 8 years of a Obama/Biden administration, then focus of ire is misplaced.
The other thing is that you can’t look at a business owner’s personal tax returns (especially a tycoon like Trump) and really know their actual damage to the Feds. It’s ridiculously complicated which is the actual problem that should be addressed and never is. But like I said earlier, who here would voluntarily pay more taxes than they are legally obligated to? And also a guy like Trump is paying some big time tax accounting firm 7 figures to handle his books. It’s really not accurate to suggest his tax expenses are less than a middle class American. It’s still going to be astronomical in comparison.
 

cowboyinexile

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Can you seriously say with a straight face and truth serum that you're ok with a dude having a net worth of $2.5 Billion paying less federal income taxes than you do? (much less)
Stop...really, just stop...
He isn't that liquid. Considering how much he owes its arguable half the damn board is more above water than he is.

I don't knock him for having the accountants to limit his tax burden. We all do that. But damn for a guy that owns a bunch of casinos he has a lot of debt.
 

OSUCowboy787

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Can you seriously say with a straight face and truth serum that you're ok with a dude having a net worth of $2.5 Billion paying less federal income taxes than you do? (much less)
Stop...really, just stop...
100% yes. If he was breaking any IRS rules he would be fined and or jailed. Seeing as he hasn't, just because he pays someone to help him play the game better than you doesn't mean he's a bad person for doing it. Turn it around on you, If you had the wealth he does, wouldn't you try to pay as little taxes as you are legally obligated to? All these libs who want to tax the rich and none of them voluntarily offer up more money to the government. Not illegal to pay more than you're required to the IRS. A donation to the US Government...
 

steross

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This may be true. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. At the same time you remember when Harry Reid said another Republican presidential contender didn't pay taxes and it turned out to be a flat out lie. When asked about it later Harry said "he didn't win the election did he?"
I don't remember that.

I do remember Mitt Romney paying 13% on his $46 million dollar income the year before he ran while I had to pay 28% on far, far, far less income that same year.

(And for all the doubters out there, yes, that is effective rates not comparing marginal rates to effective rates).
 

CocoCincinnati

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Can you seriously say with a straight face and truth serum that you're ok with a dude having a net worth of $2.5 Billion paying less federal income taxes than you do? (much less)
Stop...really, just stop...
Are you really going to say with a straight face that you are more mad at a person for taking advantage of a broken tax code than you are at the people who broke it? Stop.....really, just stop.

I don't know about you, but I take advantage of every legal tax break I can. Does it bother me that rich people like Trump can more easily game the system than I can? Of course. But I blame the politicians who made it possible (like Pelosi, McConnell and yes Biden).

This is of course all hypothetical at this point as the statement about Trump's taxes could be yet another lie. Wolf!