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  1. CowboyChop

    Man opens fire inside Oklahoma restaurant before 'armed citizen' shoots, kills him

    Very brave, a perfect example of restraint and gun ownership. They would have been justified just shooting him but instead calmly assessed the situation and then fired upon the person. There are 'highly trained individuals' who would have not treated the situation as calmly and with such...
  2. CowboyChop

    Man opens fire inside Oklahoma restaurant before 'armed citizen' shoots, kills him

    Crazy if a true representation of the events. Very brave and responsible of the patrons with the concealed weapons. It is crazy how these citizen (armed and unarmed) did consider the ramifications of taking a life a such as critical situation. I wish some of our law enforcement officers...
  3. CowboyChop

    NFL owners change policy

    Guys, both these quotes are right. The NFL has every right as an employer to penalize them from kneeling during the anthem. They have every right to do it under the first amendment but can be penalized for the first point. It is pretty basic. There is a perceived injustice that minorities...
  4. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    This is making my brain hurt trying to compare alcohol to guns, I am glad you see similarities. I have not been arguing for a anything that resembles an outright ban on guns. I only brought up alcohol because it is the closest thing i can think of to a regulated market in response to someone...
  5. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" - Obi-wan Bold statement saying everyone who wants to obtain a gun will obtain a gun. Seems like it would at least be a little work to obtain one illegally and we might catch said person trying to obtain one illegally and stop a massacre. This is a little...
  6. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    Where did you find this article? It was interesting read but it is a world wide sample population. Hard to relate directly to the United States, our culture, our laws and our history. I know this is not what you meant but it reads "We can help the 2nd amendment by restricting the 1st...
  7. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    Well we just found out these were his dad's guns. Not saying this shooting or the Sandy Hook shooting would have been prevented but if these two gun owners had secured their firearms responsibly, a lot of children 'might' still be alive. To me, this extremely frustrating. I think that the...
  8. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    Did it start off as a 'discussion' or was it escalated into an 'argument' immediately?
  9. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    Not really. The whole drug market is a black market. A small portion of the gun market is a black market. You are comparing two very dissimilar things.
  10. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    This is hard to compare apple to apples. Guns would be legal and people would still have access to them. Drugs are illegal and no can access them legality so the whole market is a black market. Alcohol would be a better comparison. It has restricted access but is readily available to the...
  11. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    Guns aren't the root cause. People are the root cause. Since we can eliminate criminals, people with mental illness or people of different religions or different ways of thinking (a guy tried to do that in the 1930's and 1940's... it was considered true evil to most people). I am not trying...
  12. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    Sorry, I don't think that I am following this as well as I should. The 2nd amendment is part of a living document, it can change if unpopular. The more kids that get gunned down at school the more the more people are going to say "man we should do something about that" If 2/3 of them are...
  13. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    I see your point, but in my opinion that is going a little far, just my opinion. Mental illness is a huge problem. But a lot of it is subjective which scares me. However, if you are diagnosed with bi-polar or with schizophrenia you take take medication but you are never going to be 100%...
  14. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    We get to control the conversation and where it goes. We get to protect the 2nd amendment. We get everything we want.
  15. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    You make some good points. One step we could do to help reduce this problem is reducing unwanted pregnancy and unwanted children. It going back to my stance on abortion. 99.99%, both sides, think that abortion is bad. Forget the 'pro-life/pro-choice", we have all agreed that abortion is...
  16. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    Yep, it was vague and i understand how it was misinterpreted. It was more my frustration with the right and group like the NRA on not leading the charge on some sort of response to this crisis other than ''Price of Freedom" and "Thoughts and Prayers". We are reaching a tipping point where...
  17. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    100% agree. There are a lot of people that don't want to have a conversation and believe that having a conversation some how strips them of their rights. Frustrated with the NRA... they could lead a huge conversation and refuse to do so. What has me most concerned is we are going to let the...
  18. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    Probably nothing would have, but I still think a discussion is worth having.
  19. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    Where did I say that I want to take peoples guns? This is the problem man, anytime anyone brings up any kind of gun discussion people (left and right) want to jerk the cord hard in the other direction. As a owner of guns I am open for a debate on the matter from both sides. There is no silver...
  20. CowboyChop

    Shooting at Texas High School

    You should go down to Sante Fe school and help wrap the victims and the victims families in the American flag. I am sure that will make them feel better, it obviously work for you. Or maybe you could just send some 'thoughts and prayers' since that appears to be working too.